#385 - Duane Ludwig, TJ Dillashaw
![The Joe Rogan Experience #385 - Duane Ludwig, TJ Dillashaw](https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/5/5/d/2/55d2b1b47cd34971/JRE385.jpg)
August 26, 2013
Duane Ludwig is a former mixed martial arts fighter and currently is the head coach of Team Alpha Male. TJ Dillashaw is a mixed martial arts fighter currently fighting in the bantamweight division of the UFC.
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